Response to an article written by Walid Phares ' The Candidate Who can See the Enemy Can Defeat it, published at Humanevents.com (http://www.humanevents.com/article php ? id=24808)
The article rightfully lays a great deal of emphasis on present epidemic of terrorism. Later, he relates the solutions to presidents, as if our presidents decide without relying on our extensive information systems , which are actually of utmost importance in policy making. However, during past years in spite of our supreme information systems, we made serious mistakes in our policies which have not been intelligently veiled by our media. Unfortunately, even this lack of intelligence did not alert the majority of our citizens making them prey to faith and fear pimps. Yes , unfortunately the main dilemma here is the rarity of concerned citizens. Looking back at our history, this rarity was kind of unusual due to the efforts of our founding fathers, an exceptional group of men deciding without the influence religion and finances. Their efforts are indeed well reflected in our constitution which places us in a special rank among the other western civilizations(WC). As matter of fact, we do know that the very glorified French revolution was indeed significantly influenced by ours . Yet and but relying on their weak foundations the French betrayed their initial goals.
Terrorism is not a new phenomenon in human history. It has been practiced all along since the very start of our civilization. Almost all of famous empires of the past expanded their power utilizing terror, invasion, looting and enslavement. Thus it will not be unrealistic or an allegory to change a title to, Alexander the Great Thief. Therefore, today if we are sincerely and honestly concerned about terrorism and its causation (etiology) we need to look at our past, since this approach is well installed in our innate endowments. As a matter of fact, even the lower species can learn and remember not to repeat mistakes.
Interestingly , terror continued even after the establishment of monotheistic religions, a latent realization of His presence by the believers. Thus even after, the peoples of the books arrived at the scene terrorism, did not only continue but became systematic in spite of the principles underlined in the books. Peoples of the books in time became so civilized that they installed a serious discrimination against each other, not only between religions but also between their different sects serving their leaders well. In short, our alienation against each other was indoctrinated by people who wanted to maintain their power. Majority of these gentlemen we did not hesitate to call saints. However, all the three books Torah, both Bibles and the Kuran defend the same principles. As matter of fact, almost half of Kuran contents are from the Bible. Interestingly, prophet Muhammed insisted on ' I am not creating a new religion. I want everybody under one god'
Looking at history reveals, eras of numerous systematic terror. During 100O's AD Europe was indeed going through a difficult stage of poverty. This deprivation as usual led to exploitaion of faith and started the Crusades. The Crusades without exception ransacked, raped, robbed and killed many , including their brethren on their way to Jerusalem where again massacres did not spare even Christians. They cut open people alive to look for diamonds they had probably swallowed ! One of the leaders of Crusades Richard the Lionheart , the French King's boyfriend did not even speak English and when asked 'what to do with all these captives ?' he replied 'since we can't feed them, kill them'.
Fall of Istanbul (Constantinople) couldn't have taken place that soon if the city had not been ransacked by the Crusades multiple times. Constantinople was named after emperor Constantin who while still praying to idols and totems declared Christianity as
2
the official religion of the Eastern Roman Empire for political power. He gathered a bunch of Bible Scholars and laid the foundation of New Testament in Iznik (Nicea) , Turkey. Now we know that many important gospels were not included in the new version serving present policies. Thanks to findings from Dead Sea and Nag Hamadi scrolls. Constantin established two political parties Greens and Blues, similar to butchery at arenas by Romans at times of unrest and turmoil to divert the attention of populace. This may well remind very few of us about our present political parties and our addiction to professional sports and games
After conquering Istanbul, Ottoman spread to Balkans became faster since they did not discriminate against any faith. However, Ottoman existence in the Middle East endangered the very profitable trade routes coinciding with serious economical problems in Europe.
Thus arrived the glorius Age of Discovery when devout European Christians sailed to unknown parts of the world hoping to find a new spice route, gold and new lands to be claimed for their Kings. Wherever these brave sailors went people were robbed, raped , enslaved and Christianized . Stolen gold, precious stones and slaves were brought back to two devout Christian nations, Spain and Portugal. One of the priests attending Columbus's ventures complained about the killing of many many indigenous peoples to the official Papal Comission ' Aren't they His children too…?', but what was important was not the slaves or those killed, but gold. Years later, in early ninetees indigenous people of tropics and South America complained about our celebration of Columbus day, a day we are celebrating the crimes of a criminal. However, very soon our Council of Churces in US complied with facts and agreed not to celebrate this day of inhuman deeds. Magellan the famous explorer also robbed and killed many many people and tried to Christianize the rest. His adventure ended in demise and when the only ship surviving returned to Seville, the financers of the trip and the king looked for spices and gold not being concerned at all about the number of indigenous people Christianized. There isn't a single discovery trip in Age of Discovery where people are spared , not robbed, and raped. Years later, we found out that the Chinese about a hundred years earlier than European trips had already visited these unknown lands established trading posts but did not kill, rape , rob and convert them to their religion.
Age of Discovery is thus tainted with blood as well approved and supported by Vatican. During and before this age of crimes against humanity in Spain people of different religions and races got along very well and together significantly contributed to science, art , literature and philosophy. As a matter of fact, we do certainly remember some of these Catholics, Moors and Jews.
It did not take much for Isabella and Ferdinand to unchain their greed which started the Inquisition which was actually practiced all over Europe. Jews all over Europe became secluded in their ghettos which provoked fanaticism , fundamentalism and even discrimation against their brethren to receive more favors and acceptance by the Christian rulers. Some rabbis made it forbidden to read any book beside the Torah and if it was very necessary to read a different book, they were permitted to be read only in the bathroom. Socially, similar adverse effects of such a seclusion , stress and poverty can well be observed even at present, all over Europe and Britain where especially Moslem minorities were given residence as guest workers without any effective plan of assimilation but instead, a lot of discrimination. These groups developing and changing
their own culture are indeed very prone to extremist thoughts, and fundamentalism due to their stress and insecurity. Similar changes have been observed among African-Americans in North America. These, people being blamed for many crimes have
3
established their own art, music, names and even clothing in search for an identity, a very common reaction to discrimination. Many Christian whites blame them for our prevailing problems like crime, theft, and laziness draining official aid sources. However, the blamed aspects are of equal distribution among poor whites who are stigmatized as 'White trash' by their Christian brethren.
Millions of Moslems especially Turks live in Europe now. They are not only prone to influences by Saudi Wahabism training terrorists but also terrorist organizations like the Kurdish Communists Party(PPK). Similar trends are developing in France with Algerians and Moslems of Britain. Interestingly, administrations of Europe just began to realize this problem and yet not accepting PKK as a terrorist organization even after they cost 35,000 Turkish lives during past years. It is also a tragic allegory to see the WC supporting a Kurdish nation in Iraq now, the classic trick of 'Divide et empera' practiced by British to keep the Middle East under control not long time ago.
The Age of Discovery with respect to human demise is not very different from deadly epidemics of plague. As a matter of fact, the famous explorers did bring in deadly diseases like smallpox which decimated whole populations. Besides diseases, indigenous populations of both Americas and civilizations like Aztecs were completely destroyed by Cortez and similar gangs. Age of discovery is also embelished by another human crime. A crime which started among people without a book, Africans was universalized by Moslem Arabs, slave trade. This trade, now almost a thousand years old was further enriched by pirates. As Moslem Ottoman pirates ransacked Mediterranean harbours Christians replenished their trade in West Africa and the caribbean which was later more enslaved by obligatory growth of cash crops.
We also need to remember that Inquisition was not unique to Jews only. This mode of destroying our kind, our brethren , terrorism took another form when Martin Luther came to the scene. Millions of Catholics were slaughtered everywhere and even in North America. As a matter of fact, terror still persists with Basques in Spain and Irish in Great Britain.
Interestingly, the present so claimed very civilized and advanced nations of Northern Europe sterilized people, separated families and made it obligatory to become Christians those nomadic peoples like Tartars early in the 19th century. This was soon followed by Holocaust, in spite of the fact that the WC knew it was coming long time ago and did not do anything about it. Finally, when they intervened they did not realize that they bombed and destroyed cities like Dresden where there were no Nazi forces and killed 150,000 people which was summarized by Mr. Churchill as 'We just destroyed a couple of radio stations'. He is also the one who said ' You can not be strong if you are just', a valuable experience he obtained from his bloody ventures in Africa. However, his outspokenness together with his master Mr. George disappeared for quite a while after the Dardanelles. Allied forces also allowed massacres in Poland and Eastern Europe by the Gulag expert Mr. Stalin. Unfortunately, the human demise of holocaust underlines only the Jews as victims and interestingly Jews seem to have a hard time to talk about other victims such as disabled, homosexuals, gypsies other races and nationalities. Thus human demise caused by the supreme race Christian Arians including the people killed during their unjustified wars adds up to 10 million , 6 million of which are Jews.
Holocaust is an excellent reminder of our level of civilization in the 20 th Century. During Holocaust many countries of the WC did not accept the Jews who were trying to escape. British charged $1,000 for each to transport to Israel. Switzerland closed their borders for Jews escaping from Nazi's but their banks did not hesitate to collect their
4
stolen valuables including gold teeth of the slaughtered. All this was committed with the Christian leader Pope watching. Meanwhile, many insurance companies all over Europe kept the monies paid by Jews for years and years without saying a word.
Finally when the Jews moved to their land bought by hard cash, but the actual tenents not informed of the sale by the Moslem landlords kindled the fires of today. We need to ask, who is financing these terrorists such as Hizbullah and Hamas ? Is it Iran where we invited Homeyni by supporting the oppressive Shah for years ? Is it our loyal friends the Arabs of Middle East who are financing thousands of medreses teaching hatred and terrorism everywhere? Sunnies and Shiites are killing each other faster than the invaders and yet the only reason a person can kill another is an immediate threat to
one's life is specifically underlined in the Kuran. Thus looking at the oppressive way and terror the Moslems are practicing today disclaims their faith as their behavior is completely against Kuran.
Furthermore, we need to acquire the honesty to answer the question 'who is benefiting from the turmoil in Middle East'? Is it oil ? Or is it reclaiming dollar against Euros ? Or even arms manufacturers ?
Many years after holocaust another human demise started in Bosnia and Kosovo and surprisingly again the neighboring WC's watched callously until things got out of hand thousands died and then Clinton had to intervene while they were still deaf and blind.
We also need to underline the human demise which came to happen after colonization of especially Africa, India, Malaysia and Australia. Presently this WC colonization has taken different, almost unrecognizable forms. We provide them aid but they can buy only our products at a much higher price than prevailing markets. We are asking millions of small farmers to plant tobacco and biofuel plants or buying their land thus depriving them from growing their own food , increasing their poverty.
The author is also mentioning a non-secular trend in Turkey. However, he does not mention anything about a religious leader convicted in Turkey, who escaped to US and is being treated like an honored guest. This uneducated gentleman has started numerous fundamentalist schools all around the world especially in Turkey where all levels of administration are infected by his fundamentalist followers. He is also in full cooperation with the Christian missionary system and even financing them. Thus, is it hard to understand US's support of a moderate islam in Turkey, which is now out of control, distancing Turkey from Europe and US and establishing closer ties with the neighboring oppressive Arab tribes ? Is it hard to understand the influence of fundamentalist Christians in the US as one their leaders advocated killing of a South American leader ?
Is it indeed very hard to understand the causation in terrorism when we sell most developed weaponry including guided missles to an opressive, fundamentalist and so-called Moslem country known to be supporting the terrorists ? The author insists on finding the enemy , but how can we identify them when we disguise them as friends ?
Thus , only honesty and knowledge of our past and present can yield a possible solution to the prevailing problem of terrorism. This knowledge, not information should be taught to our children from the very start. Regardless of faith, we should teach our children how we betrayed Moses, Jesus and Mohammed. True believers, must underline His presence all the time and certainly before any religion. We should teach our children that accepting His creation of bad people like discoverers, religious patriarches, pirates, and certainly evil is openly insulting Him since we are the ones who committed
5
these crimes and created them. As for non-believers humans certainly have acquired the innate endownments which enables them to be honest, caring and living in peace instead of attributing our present problems to a certain religion by -passing the crucial socio-economic causation. Thus, I would like to remind the author that the ten commandments are not multiple choice.
The article rightfully lays a great deal of emphasis on present epidemic of terrorism. Later, he relates the solutions to presidents, as if our presidents decide without relying on our extensive information systems , which are actually of utmost importance in policy making. However, during past years in spite of our supreme information systems, we made serious mistakes in our policies which have not been intelligently veiled by our media. Unfortunately, even this lack of intelligence did not alert the majority of our citizens making them prey to faith and fear pimps. Yes , unfortunately the main dilemma here is the rarity of concerned citizens. Looking back at our history, this rarity was kind of unusual due to the efforts of our founding fathers, an exceptional group of men deciding without the influence religion and finances. Their efforts are indeed well reflected in our constitution which places us in a special rank among the other western civilizations(WC). As matter of fact, we do know that the very glorified French revolution was indeed significantly influenced by ours . Yet and but relying on their weak foundations the French betrayed their initial goals.
Terrorism is not a new phenomenon in human history. It has been practiced all along since the very start of our civilization. Almost all of famous empires of the past expanded their power utilizing terror, invasion, looting and enslavement. Thus it will not be unrealistic or an allegory to change a title to, Alexander the Great Thief. Therefore, today if we are sincerely and honestly concerned about terrorism and its causation (etiology) we need to look at our past, since this approach is well installed in our innate endowments. As a matter of fact, even the lower species can learn and remember not to repeat mistakes.
Interestingly , terror continued even after the establishment of monotheistic religions, a latent realization of His presence by the believers. Thus even after, the peoples of the books arrived at the scene terrorism, did not only continue but became systematic in spite of the principles underlined in the books. Peoples of the books in time became so civilized that they installed a serious discrimination against each other, not only between religions but also between their different sects serving their leaders well. In short, our alienation against each other was indoctrinated by people who wanted to maintain their power. Majority of these gentlemen we did not hesitate to call saints. However, all the three books Torah, both Bibles and the Kuran defend the same principles. As matter of fact, almost half of Kuran contents are from the Bible. Interestingly, prophet Muhammed insisted on ' I am not creating a new religion. I want everybody under one god'
Looking at history reveals, eras of numerous systematic terror. During 100O's AD Europe was indeed going through a difficult stage of poverty. This deprivation as usual led to exploitaion of faith and started the Crusades. The Crusades without exception ransacked, raped, robbed and killed many , including their brethren on their way to Jerusalem where again massacres did not spare even Christians. They cut open people alive to look for diamonds they had probably swallowed ! One of the leaders of Crusades Richard the Lionheart , the French King's boyfriend did not even speak English and when asked 'what to do with all these captives ?' he replied 'since we can't feed them, kill them'.
Fall of Istanbul (Constantinople) couldn't have taken place that soon if the city had not been ransacked by the Crusades multiple times. Constantinople was named after emperor Constantin who while still praying to idols and totems declared Christianity as
2
the official religion of the Eastern Roman Empire for political power. He gathered a bunch of Bible Scholars and laid the foundation of New Testament in Iznik (Nicea) , Turkey. Now we know that many important gospels were not included in the new version serving present policies. Thanks to findings from Dead Sea and Nag Hamadi scrolls. Constantin established two political parties Greens and Blues, similar to butchery at arenas by Romans at times of unrest and turmoil to divert the attention of populace. This may well remind very few of us about our present political parties and our addiction to professional sports and games
After conquering Istanbul, Ottoman spread to Balkans became faster since they did not discriminate against any faith. However, Ottoman existence in the Middle East endangered the very profitable trade routes coinciding with serious economical problems in Europe.
Thus arrived the glorius Age of Discovery when devout European Christians sailed to unknown parts of the world hoping to find a new spice route, gold and new lands to be claimed for their Kings. Wherever these brave sailors went people were robbed, raped , enslaved and Christianized . Stolen gold, precious stones and slaves were brought back to two devout Christian nations, Spain and Portugal. One of the priests attending Columbus's ventures complained about the killing of many many indigenous peoples to the official Papal Comission ' Aren't they His children too…?', but what was important was not the slaves or those killed, but gold. Years later, in early ninetees indigenous people of tropics and South America complained about our celebration of Columbus day, a day we are celebrating the crimes of a criminal. However, very soon our Council of Churces in US complied with facts and agreed not to celebrate this day of inhuman deeds. Magellan the famous explorer also robbed and killed many many people and tried to Christianize the rest. His adventure ended in demise and when the only ship surviving returned to Seville, the financers of the trip and the king looked for spices and gold not being concerned at all about the number of indigenous people Christianized. There isn't a single discovery trip in Age of Discovery where people are spared , not robbed, and raped. Years later, we found out that the Chinese about a hundred years earlier than European trips had already visited these unknown lands established trading posts but did not kill, rape , rob and convert them to their religion.
Age of Discovery is thus tainted with blood as well approved and supported by Vatican. During and before this age of crimes against humanity in Spain people of different religions and races got along very well and together significantly contributed to science, art , literature and philosophy. As a matter of fact, we do certainly remember some of these Catholics, Moors and Jews.
It did not take much for Isabella and Ferdinand to unchain their greed which started the Inquisition which was actually practiced all over Europe. Jews all over Europe became secluded in their ghettos which provoked fanaticism , fundamentalism and even discrimation against their brethren to receive more favors and acceptance by the Christian rulers. Some rabbis made it forbidden to read any book beside the Torah and if it was very necessary to read a different book, they were permitted to be read only in the bathroom. Socially, similar adverse effects of such a seclusion , stress and poverty can well be observed even at present, all over Europe and Britain where especially Moslem minorities were given residence as guest workers without any effective plan of assimilation but instead, a lot of discrimination. These groups developing and changing
their own culture are indeed very prone to extremist thoughts, and fundamentalism due to their stress and insecurity. Similar changes have been observed among African-Americans in North America. These, people being blamed for many crimes have
3
established their own art, music, names and even clothing in search for an identity, a very common reaction to discrimination. Many Christian whites blame them for our prevailing problems like crime, theft, and laziness draining official aid sources. However, the blamed aspects are of equal distribution among poor whites who are stigmatized as 'White trash' by their Christian brethren.
Millions of Moslems especially Turks live in Europe now. They are not only prone to influences by Saudi Wahabism training terrorists but also terrorist organizations like the Kurdish Communists Party(PPK). Similar trends are developing in France with Algerians and Moslems of Britain. Interestingly, administrations of Europe just began to realize this problem and yet not accepting PKK as a terrorist organization even after they cost 35,000 Turkish lives during past years. It is also a tragic allegory to see the WC supporting a Kurdish nation in Iraq now, the classic trick of 'Divide et empera' practiced by British to keep the Middle East under control not long time ago.
The Age of Discovery with respect to human demise is not very different from deadly epidemics of plague. As a matter of fact, the famous explorers did bring in deadly diseases like smallpox which decimated whole populations. Besides diseases, indigenous populations of both Americas and civilizations like Aztecs were completely destroyed by Cortez and similar gangs. Age of discovery is also embelished by another human crime. A crime which started among people without a book, Africans was universalized by Moslem Arabs, slave trade. This trade, now almost a thousand years old was further enriched by pirates. As Moslem Ottoman pirates ransacked Mediterranean harbours Christians replenished their trade in West Africa and the caribbean which was later more enslaved by obligatory growth of cash crops.
We also need to remember that Inquisition was not unique to Jews only. This mode of destroying our kind, our brethren , terrorism took another form when Martin Luther came to the scene. Millions of Catholics were slaughtered everywhere and even in North America. As a matter of fact, terror still persists with Basques in Spain and Irish in Great Britain.
Interestingly, the present so claimed very civilized and advanced nations of Northern Europe sterilized people, separated families and made it obligatory to become Christians those nomadic peoples like Tartars early in the 19th century. This was soon followed by Holocaust, in spite of the fact that the WC knew it was coming long time ago and did not do anything about it. Finally, when they intervened they did not realize that they bombed and destroyed cities like Dresden where there were no Nazi forces and killed 150,000 people which was summarized by Mr. Churchill as 'We just destroyed a couple of radio stations'. He is also the one who said ' You can not be strong if you are just', a valuable experience he obtained from his bloody ventures in Africa. However, his outspokenness together with his master Mr. George disappeared for quite a while after the Dardanelles. Allied forces also allowed massacres in Poland and Eastern Europe by the Gulag expert Mr. Stalin. Unfortunately, the human demise of holocaust underlines only the Jews as victims and interestingly Jews seem to have a hard time to talk about other victims such as disabled, homosexuals, gypsies other races and nationalities. Thus human demise caused by the supreme race Christian Arians including the people killed during their unjustified wars adds up to 10 million , 6 million of which are Jews.
Holocaust is an excellent reminder of our level of civilization in the 20 th Century. During Holocaust many countries of the WC did not accept the Jews who were trying to escape. British charged $1,000 for each to transport to Israel. Switzerland closed their borders for Jews escaping from Nazi's but their banks did not hesitate to collect their
4
stolen valuables including gold teeth of the slaughtered. All this was committed with the Christian leader Pope watching. Meanwhile, many insurance companies all over Europe kept the monies paid by Jews for years and years without saying a word.
Finally when the Jews moved to their land bought by hard cash, but the actual tenents not informed of the sale by the Moslem landlords kindled the fires of today. We need to ask, who is financing these terrorists such as Hizbullah and Hamas ? Is it Iran where we invited Homeyni by supporting the oppressive Shah for years ? Is it our loyal friends the Arabs of Middle East who are financing thousands of medreses teaching hatred and terrorism everywhere? Sunnies and Shiites are killing each other faster than the invaders and yet the only reason a person can kill another is an immediate threat to
one's life is specifically underlined in the Kuran. Thus looking at the oppressive way and terror the Moslems are practicing today disclaims their faith as their behavior is completely against Kuran.
Furthermore, we need to acquire the honesty to answer the question 'who is benefiting from the turmoil in Middle East'? Is it oil ? Or is it reclaiming dollar against Euros ? Or even arms manufacturers ?
Many years after holocaust another human demise started in Bosnia and Kosovo and surprisingly again the neighboring WC's watched callously until things got out of hand thousands died and then Clinton had to intervene while they were still deaf and blind.
We also need to underline the human demise which came to happen after colonization of especially Africa, India, Malaysia and Australia. Presently this WC colonization has taken different, almost unrecognizable forms. We provide them aid but they can buy only our products at a much higher price than prevailing markets. We are asking millions of small farmers to plant tobacco and biofuel plants or buying their land thus depriving them from growing their own food , increasing their poverty.
The author is also mentioning a non-secular trend in Turkey. However, he does not mention anything about a religious leader convicted in Turkey, who escaped to US and is being treated like an honored guest. This uneducated gentleman has started numerous fundamentalist schools all around the world especially in Turkey where all levels of administration are infected by his fundamentalist followers. He is also in full cooperation with the Christian missionary system and even financing them. Thus, is it hard to understand US's support of a moderate islam in Turkey, which is now out of control, distancing Turkey from Europe and US and establishing closer ties with the neighboring oppressive Arab tribes ? Is it hard to understand the influence of fundamentalist Christians in the US as one their leaders advocated killing of a South American leader ?
Is it indeed very hard to understand the causation in terrorism when we sell most developed weaponry including guided missles to an opressive, fundamentalist and so-called Moslem country known to be supporting the terrorists ? The author insists on finding the enemy , but how can we identify them when we disguise them as friends ?
Thus , only honesty and knowledge of our past and present can yield a possible solution to the prevailing problem of terrorism. This knowledge, not information should be taught to our children from the very start. Regardless of faith, we should teach our children how we betrayed Moses, Jesus and Mohammed. True believers, must underline His presence all the time and certainly before any religion. We should teach our children that accepting His creation of bad people like discoverers, religious patriarches, pirates, and certainly evil is openly insulting Him since we are the ones who committed
5
these crimes and created them. As for non-believers humans certainly have acquired the innate endownments which enables them to be honest, caring and living in peace instead of attributing our present problems to a certain religion by -passing the crucial socio-economic causation. Thus, I would like to remind the author that the ten commandments are not multiple choice.
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